October 8, 2026

Dr Keith Grimes on The Healthusiasm Podcast: shadow AI, trust, and the human's role

Keith recently joined Christophe Jauquet on The Healthusiasm Podcast for a conversation dives beneath the usual AI-in-healthcare headlines.

Most clinicians are now AI-aware and so Christophe and Keith dig into the harder questions: what happens to power and expertise as AI's capabilities grow? Who trusts it, and why? And what is the human's role when the tool keeps improving?

One of the threads running through the episode is shadow AI: clinicians and patients adopting AI tools faster than institutions can accommodate, often outside official governance structures. It's a phenomenon Keith sees regularly in his work, and his perspective on it draws on both his years as an NHS GP and his current work with healthtech companies navigating exactly this tension.

The episode also covers collective intelligence, the ego dynamics that shape how professionals relate to AI systems, and what the HLTH Europe conversations are surfacing about where the industry is heading.

Listen to the episode here